Pick of the Day – Islam Channel Moon Sighting Debate

Assalamu ‘Alaikum,

Below is the moon sighting debate that was aired on Islam Channel before the last Ramadan. Some pretty interesting stuff. However it still hasn’t solved our problem has it ?

Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

Part 4

Part 5

Part 6

Part 7

Part 9

Was Salam



4 thoughts on “Pick of the Day – Islam Channel Moon Sighting Debate”

  1. بسم الله الرحمن الرحیم
    السلام علیکم

    The issues are following.

    1. It is obvious that Saudi dates are wrong. Always one day ahead, sometimes two days ahead.

    2. The state of denial by Arab brothers that Saudi dates are wrong.

    3. The insistence by Arab brothers to follow Saudis no matter what. They try propduce all sorts of arguments in their favor. We saw Sheikh Haitham Al-Haddad doing that. Nothing new or surprising here.

    I suggest UK and US should forget Saudis and stick to their local calendar. They can use the calculation to assist them as Sheikh Suleman said. Why should dates in UK and US be announced by Saudis who are unpredictable and change dates at the last minute? We work and live in UK & US, we need to deal with our employers here. We go to schools here. Why depend on Saudi announcement? It is not dictated by any hadith or ayah. Everything points to local sighting.

    My simple argument – if there was no telephone or telegraph or internet, how would we find the date in Saudi from UK and US? If you present this argument to Arab brothers, thy will say, ‘Oh we must use technology.”

  2. Jazak Allahu Khair for the comment.

    To me this issue just shows what the state of the Muslims at large is. We are so disorganised and disfunctional that we can’t even get together and agree a way forward that would be to the benefit of the entire community in whichever country we may be.

    I thought the Qur’an and Hadith was pretty clear and unambigious in this issue, yet we seem to have so much disagreement and differences.

    May Allah unite our hearts and guide us to that which pleases Him – Ameen !

  3. بسم الله الرحمن الرحیم
    السلام علیکم
    Another point of Sheikh Haitham Al-Haddad did not convince me that if all Muslims decide on a certain date then it is good. This could lead to future date fixing like Christmas (Dec. 25 every year throughout the world) or other holidays in America (like the first Monday of September is Labor Day). This way future generations could decide the first week-end after the moonsighting is the Eid or Sunday is Jumuah because we can’t get time off from work.

  4. بسم الله الرحمن الرحیم
    السلام علیکم
    I am responsible for moonsighting in a masjid in New Jersey, USA and it is very painful every Eid.

    For some strange reasons, the Arab brothers will never follow any calendar other than Saudi. No matter what evidence you present, they will never accept that Saudi dates are wrong.

    Just after the Hajj in Dec. 2007, the Saudis adjusted their calendar. Their Zul Hijjah was of 31 days! Did the masajid that follwed Saudi annouce this correction? I don’t think so.

    The problem will never resolve until Saudis correct their moonsighting announcement. It is totally useless to hold debates.

    We live our lives out of Saudi Arabia. Why should we wait for Saudi decisions to decide our Eid and Ramadan? We have had quite a few last minute unexpected changes by Saudis.

    My suggestion to Sheikh Haitham and others would be to follow the moonsighting possibility maps. That is the closest we can get to moonsighting with a great chance that it will coincide with actual moonsighting.

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